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China plays hardball on iron ore but the iron ore miners are the winners so far

posted on August 10, 2009 at 2:42 pm
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China has so far refused to sign a long term contract with the world’s big iron ore exporters, Vale (VALE), BHP Billiton (BHP), and Rio Tinto (RTP). The goal was to get a big price break on iron ore prices. But it now looks like China’s tough stance has backfired. Chinese companies are now either buying iron ore on the spot market at prices about 50% higher than those in the annual contracts signed by Korean and Japanese steelmakers back in April,or scrambling to sign side deals at the price set by Korean and Japanese buyers.

The result is that spot iron ore prices are booming. The big three iron ore exporters are getting higher prices for their ore than they forecast just a few months ago. And Chinese steelmakers are announcing huge price increases for their products just as China tries to revive its economy with a big shot of spending on iron and steel-intensive infrastructure.

The country’s negotiator, the Chinese Iron and Steel Association, has said the 33% to 44% cuts from 2008 prices negotiated by Korean and Japanese steelmakers back in April are not acceptable. A cut of somewhere between 60% and 75% that would roll back the entire 2008 price increase would be required.

And to show how seriously the Chinese government takes iron or prices, back on July 5 it detained Stern Hu, the head of sales and marketing in China for Australia’s Rio Tinto, and three other staffers on an accusation of stealing state secrets. That charge escalated on August 10 when an editorial in the magazine of the National Administration for the Protection of State Secrets announced that large amounts of intelligence data has been found on Rio Tinto computers. The article said, “the economic spies using bribes for six years, forced the Chinese steel companies to pay more than 700bn reminbi more for imported iron ore than they would otherwise.”  (Chinese law, if should be noted, leaves the government free to decide what is a state secret well after the fact. Publicly available and already published information can become a state secret.)

Needless to say, the Chinese demands for huge price cuts and the detention of employees of foreign iron ore miners have brought negotiations to a standstill. That has pushed some Chinese iron and steelmakers into the spot market and pushed prices there up to $110 a metric ton. That’s a ten month high and about 50% higher than the prices set  by the April negotiations with Korean and Japanese steelmakers.

Other Chinese steelmakers have gone off on their own to strike side deals with overseas iron ore miners so that they avoid paying the spot price. Most of these deals are getting done near the Korean/Japanese price target.

Among the stocks of the big three (soon to be big two if the Rio Tinto/BHP merger goes through) iron ore miners, my choice is Brazil’s Vale. For more on that stock and a few words on timing a buy, see my post “Chinese stocks crack: Time to go bargain hunting–in Brazil” from July 29. (You can use the tags at the bottom of this blog to search for the post or just page backwards.)

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  • java12jack on 10 August 2009


    What our your thoughts on TC quarter?

  • JGBHimself on 11 August 2009

    This is only a small part of a truly fascinating story. When we find it will will return and give you the site, but there was a very interesting news article recently about Cuba and iron and copper ore. What they told U.S. was that ORE is Cuba’s largest export ! Not cigars.

    That little known fact, and China’s interest in it, are almost as significant to Cuba as the discovery of vast off shore oil reserves.

  • JGBHimself on 11 August 2009

    Found it, and it was NICKEL, not iron – sorry.

    But, the story:
    Cuba Shuts Factories, Cuts Energy To Save Economy

    What is also significant is that Russia and Canada supply almost ALL the nickel – AND, that nickel is required to make the guns of wars.

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